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I'm writing a bash script to purge orphaned children after the parent dies. What's the idiomatic way?

Short answer

There isn't one — it depends on how hard the parent's death is. Three tiers:

Tier 1: trap + kill the job list (graceful exits)

#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -euo pipefail

cleanup() {
  trap - EXIT INT TERM HUP        # disarm to avoid re-entry
  local pids
  pids=$(jobs -rp)                # running background jobs only
  [[ -n $pids ]] && kill $pids 2>/dev/null
  wait
}
trap cleanup EXIT INT TERM HUP

sleep 300 &
sleep 300 &
wait

Two gotchas people hit:

  • •You must list INT TERM HUP explicitly. An untrapped fatal signal kills bash via default disposition and the EXIT trap never fires.
  • •jobs -p only knows direct background jobs. Grandchildren survive.

Tier 2: kill the whole process group

This is the idiomatic way to get grandchildren too. Put yourself in a fresh process group so you don't nuke your caller:

#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -euo pipefail

# Re-exec into our own session/process group exactly once
if [[ -z ${_IN_SESSION:-} ]]; then
  export _IN_SESSION=1
  exec setsid --wait "$0" "$@"
fi

cleanup() {
  trap - EXIT INT TERM HUP
  kill -- -$$ 2>/dev/null        # negative pid == process group
}
trap cleanup EXIT INT TERM HUP

kill -- -$$ is only valid when $$ is the group leader. When a script is launched from an interactive shell, job control already gives it its own pgid — but from another script it inherits the caller's, and kill -- -$$ then either errors or hits the wrong group. setsid removes the ambiguity. (--wait needs util-linux ≥ 2.24; without it, use setsid "$0" "$@" & wait.)

Note that setsid detaches from the controlling terminal, so Ctrl-C from the tty no longer reaches you — you're relying on your TERM trap instead.

Tier 3: parent gets SIGKILL / segfaults

No trap will ever run, and the orphans are immediately reparented to PID 1, so you can't find them by PPID afterwards. pkill -P $$ is useless here. You need the kernel to do it:

PR_SET_PDEATHSIG — the child asks to be signalled when its parent dies:

setpriv --pdeathsig TERM -- long_running_thing &

Caveats: it fires when the thread that forked exits (surprising with threaded parents), and it's cleared across a privilege-changing exec. Also it only protects the immediate child, so each level has to opt in.

cgroups — the actually-bulletproof option on systemd systems:

systemd-run --user --scope --collect -- long_running_thing

Everything in the scope dies together regardless of reparenting; --collect cleans up the unit on failure.

Subreaper — if you're writing a supervisor, PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER makes orphaned descendants reparent to you instead of PID 1, so you keep seeing their SIGCHLD. Not reachable from pure bash; setpriv doesn't expose it, so this means a small C wrapper or a Python/Go supervisor.

Practical recommendation

For most scripts, Tier 2 is the sweet spot. If children may fork their own trees and correctness matters under SIGKILL, go straight to a systemd scope — it's the only approach that doesn't have a hole in it.

One more thing: add a grace period rather than going straight to SIGKILL, otherwise you'll leave temp files and half-written state behind:

cleanup() {
  trap - EXIT INT TERM HUP
  kill -TERM -- -$$ 2>/dev/null
  for _ in {1..50}; do
    kill -0 -- -$$ 2>/dev/null || return
    sleep 0.1
  done
  kill -KILL -- -$$ 2>/dev/null
}

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## Short answer
There isn't one — it depends on how hard the parent's death is. Three tiers:
### Tier 1: `trap` + kill the job list (graceful exits)
```bash
#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -euo pipefail
cleanup() {
trap - EXIT INT TERM HUP # disarm to avoid re-entry
local pids
pids=$(jobs -rp) # running background jobs only
[[ -n $pids ]] && kill $pids 2>/dev/null
wait
}
trap cleanup EXIT INT TERM HUP
sleep 300 &
sleep 300 &
wait
```
Two gotchas people hit:
- **You must list `INT TERM HUP` explicitly.** An untrapped fatal signal kills bash via default disposition and the `EXIT` trap never fires.
- `jobs -p` only knows *direct* background jobs. Grandchildren survive.
### Tier 2: kill the whole process group
This is the idiomatic way to get grandchildren too. Put yourself in a fresh process group so you don't nuke your caller:
```bash
#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -euo pipefail
# Re-exec into our own session/process group exactly once
if [[ -z ${_IN_SESSION:-} ]]; then
export _IN_SESSION=1
exec setsid --wait "$0" "$@"
fi
cleanup() {
trap - EXIT INT TERM HUP
kill -- -$$ 2>/dev/null # negative pid == process group
}
trap cleanup EXIT INT TERM HUP
```
`kill -- -$$` is only valid when `$$` is the group leader. When a script is launched from an *interactive* shell, job control already gives it its own pgid — but from another script it inherits the caller's, and `kill -- -$$` then either errors or hits the wrong group. `setsid` removes the ambiguity. (`--wait` needs util-linux ≥ 2.24; without it, use `setsid "$0" "$@" & wait`.)
Note that `setsid` detaches from the controlling terminal, so Ctrl-C from the tty no longer reaches you — you're relying on your `TERM` trap instead.
### Tier 3: parent gets SIGKILL / segfaults
No trap will ever run, and the orphans are immediately reparented to PID 1, so you can't find them by `PPID` afterwards. `pkill -P $$` is useless here. You need the kernel to do it:
**`PR_SET_PDEATHSIG`** — the child asks to be signalled when its parent dies:
```bash
setpriv --pdeathsig TERM -- long_running_thing &
```
Caveats: it fires when the *thread* that forked exits (surprising with threaded parents), and it's cleared across a privilege-changing `exec`. Also it only protects the immediate child, so each level has to opt in.
**cgroups** — the actually-bulletproof option on systemd systems:
```bash
systemd-run --user --scope --collect -- long_running_thing
```
Everything in the scope dies together regardless of reparenting; `--collect` cleans up the unit on failure.
**Subreaper** — if you're writing a supervisor, `PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER` makes orphaned descendants reparent to *you* instead of PID 1, so you keep seeing their `SIGCHLD`. Not reachable from pure bash; `setpriv` doesn't expose it, so this means a small C wrapper or a Python/Go supervisor.
## Practical recommendation
For most scripts, Tier 2 is the sweet spot. If children may fork their own trees and correctness matters under `SIGKILL`, go straight to a systemd scope — it's the only approach that doesn't have a hole in it.
One more thing: add a grace period rather than going straight to `SIGKILL`, otherwise you'll leave temp files and half-written state behind:
```bash
cleanup() {
trap - EXIT INT TERM HUP
kill -TERM -- -$$ 2>/dev/null
for _ in {1..50}; do
kill -0 -- -$$ 2>/dev/null || return
sleep 0.1
done
kill -KILL -- -$$ 2>/dev/null
}
```

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